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02/10/2012 01:30 PM Senate JUDICIARY


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            SB 186-SENTENCING/PROBATION/MENTALLY ILL                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:45:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR FRENCH announced  the consideration of SB  186, a committee                                                               
bill sponsored by request of the administration.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:45:56 PM                                                                                                                    
ANNE  CARPENETI,  Assistant  Attorney  General  representing  the                                                               
Criminal   Division,  Department   of  Law  (DOL),  thanked   the                                                               
committee  for  sponsoring  SB  186.  She  provided  a sectional                                                                
analysis.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section  1  clarifies   in  statute  that  for  a  person  to  be                                                               
found  guilty  but mentally  ill  (GBMI),  the fact  finder  must                                                               
prove  beyond  a  reasonable   doubt  that  when  the  defendant                                                                
committed  the  crime he  or she  was guilty  but  mentally  ill.                                                               
This  major  change  was  required  by  the  U.S. Supreme   Court                                                               
decisions,  Apprendi   v. New  Jersey  in  2000  and  Blakely  v.                                                           
Washington  in 2004.  The court  held  that the  Sixth Amendment                                                              
right  to a  jury trial  requires  that  a factual  finding  that                                                               
would  increase  the statutory  maximum  penalty  for an offense                                                                
must  be made  by a  jury, unless  waived  by the  defendant,  by                                                               
proof beyond a reasonable doubt.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
In  2005,  the  Legislature   made  major  changes  to  Alaska's                                                                
presumptive  sentencing  laws.  Since then,  a court  of appeals                                                                
decision  said  that a  person who  is guilty  but  mentally  ill                                                               
does  not  qualify  for  parole   (sometimes  called   good  time                                                               
release),  including  mandatory  parole,  until  the defendant's                                                                
health  has  improved  to  the  point  that  he  or  she  can  no                                                               
longer  be  found  a  danger.  Because  a  person  who  is  found                                                               
GBMI  may  not   qualify  for  mandatory   parole,  the  factual                                                                
decisions  addressing  whether  the  defendant  is GBMI  must  be                                                               
made  by a jury,  unless  waived  by the  defendant,  and  proven                                                               
beyond a reasonable doubt.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Section  2 makes  changes to  the procedure  for  addressing  the                                                               
GBMI  issue as  articulated  in  Apprendi  and Blakely.  It  also                                                               
adopts  a procedure   for giving  notice  10  days  before  trial                                                               
if the party intends to raise the issue after trial.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Section  3  clarifies  that  the  jury  must  determine  whether                                                                
the  defendant   is   guilty  but   mentally   ill,  unless   the                                                               
defendant  waives  the  right.  The  court  then determines   the                                                               
sentence.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Section  4  recognizes  that  that  current  law has  provisions                                                                
that  require   a  different   standard   of  proof  than   by  a                                                               
preponderance    of   the    evidence.    This   clarifies    the                                                               
importance of looking at the specific law.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Sections  5 and  6 and  the conforming  Sections  10  and 11  add                                                               
provisions  to ensure  that  neither  the prosecuting  authority                                                                
nor the  defendant  can, without  mutual  agreement,  change  the                                                               
terms  of  a  Rule  11,  Alaska  Rules  of  Criminal  Procedure,                                                                
agreement  after  it has been  imposed.  This would  effectively                                                                
overrule  the  court  of appeals  decision  in  State  v.  Henry.                                                             
Judges,  in sentencing  a person  who  has violated  a condition                                                                
of  probation,   must  still   apply  the   Chaney  criteria   in                                                               
deciding   how  much,  if  any,  of   the  suspended  period   of                                                               
incarceration  should  be imposed.  However,  the  court may  not                                                               
reduce  the  period  of probation  or  the  period  of suspended                                                                
time  (less  the  time  imposed  for  the  probation  violation)                                                                
without agreement from the prosecuting authority.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  explained  that  in State  v.  Henry,  Mr.  Henry                                                             
was  charged with  felony  drunk  driving.  He was  also charged                                                                
with   driving   with   a  revoked   or   suspended   operator's                                                                
license,   failure  to  stop  at   the  direction  of   a  police                                                               
officer  and  driving   without  motor  vehicle  insurance.   Mr.                                                               
Henry  and the  state  entered  into  a Rule  11  plea agreement                                                                
and  the   state  dismissed   the  latter   three  charges.   The                                                               
defendant  agreed   to plead  guilty  to  felony  drunk  driving                                                                
and  to the  sentence,  which was  24 months  in prison  with  19                                                               
months suspended.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Henry  specifically  agreed  to  serve  5  months  in  jail,                                                               
pay a  mandatory  fine and  probation  for a period  of 3  years.                                                               
One  of the  conditions   of probation   was that  he  would  not                                                               
consume  alcohol.   With "good   time"  or mandatory   parole  he                                                               
probably  served  3.5 months  in jail  and was  released.  Within                                                               
2  weeks  of   his  release  he  was   found  in  possession   of                                                               
alcohol,  and his  blood alcohol  concentration   (BAC) was  .245                                                               
percent.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
At   the  hearing   the   state   filed   a  motion   to  revoke                                                                
probation,  and  the  defendant  told  the  court  he  no  longer                                                               
wanted  to be  on probation.  Over  the  state's  objection,  the                                                               
court   sentenced   Mr.  Henry   to  15   months   in  jail   and                                                               
eliminated  the  rest  of  the probationary   period.  The  court                                                               
reasoned  it  should  be  able to  use  the  Chaney  criteria  in                                                               
determining  how  much  time  should  be imposed  on  a petition                                                                
to  revoke  probation.   The  Department   of  Law  agrees   with                                                               
that,  but it  does not  agree  with the  decision  of the  court                                                               
to  unilaterally   end  probation   and  reduce  the  period   of                                                               
suspended  time.  The  state  had  good  reasons  to  enter  into                                                               
the plea bargain and both the defense and the judge agreed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:57:46 PM                                                                                                                    
Section  7  amends  the  sentencing  provisions   for  murder  in                                                               
the  first  degree,  changing   the  burden  of  proof  that  the                                                               
defendant   subjected   the  victim   to  substantial   physical                                                                
torture  or that  the  defendant  was a  peace officer  who  used                                                               
the  officer's  authority  to  facilitate   the murder.  Current                                                                
statute  provides  for  a clear  and  convincing  burden  on  the                                                               
prosecution,  but  under  the  Apprendi  and Blakely  decisions,                                                                
the  state  must   prove  these  factors   beyond  a  reasonable                                                                
doubt.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Section   8   codifies   the   requirements   of   Apprendi   and                                                               
Blakely.  If a sentence  is  imposed on  a defendant  that  would                                                               
preclude   the  person  from  receiving   good  time,   the  jury                                                               
(unless  waived  by the defendant)  must  determine  the factual                                                                
issue  beyond  a reasonable   doubt.  Additionally,  if  a  court                                                               
is  sentencing   a  person  who  is  subject  to  a  presumptive                                                                
range  and  the  prosecution  seeks  to  increase  the  range  by                                                               
proof  of   certain  aggravating   factors,   the  jury  (unless                                                                
waived  by  the defendant)   must  determine  the  factual  issue                                                               
by proof beyond a reasonable doubt.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Section  9  addresses   aggravating  factors  that  have  caused                                                                
confusion   in   the   courts.   The   first   deals   with   the                                                               
aggravating   factor  of  the  person's  conduct   was  the  most                                                               
serious  in  the  definition  of  the  offense.  This  specifies                                                                
that  the  factual  finding  of  what  the  defendant's  conduct                                                                
was  must  be  submitted  to  the  jury  (unless  waived  by  the                                                               
defendant),  and  proven  beyond  a  reasonable  doubt.  But  the                                                               
legal  decision  about  whether  or  not  that  conduct  was  the                                                               
most  serious  in  the definition   of the  offense  is  left  to                                                               
the judge. This codifies that provision.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:00:35 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH  posed  a hypothetical   situation  of  assault  in                                                               
the  first   degree  and  asked   how  the  jury  would   make  a                                                               
decision and how and when the judge would make a decision.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI  clarified  that  these  provisions  allow a  judge                                                               
to make  decisions  on the  procedure  in each  individual  case.                                                               
She  continued  to  explain  that  the  prosecution   would  give                                                               
notice  that   it  planned  to  claim   an  aggravating  factor.                                                                
After  the  jury returned   a guilty  verdict,  the  prosecution                                                                
would  ask the  court to  consider making  specific  findings  on                                                               
the conduct  of  the defendant.  For example,  if  a person  beat                                                               
another  person  nearly  to  death  and caused  permanent   brain                                                               
damage,  the  prosecution  would  ask  the fact  finder  to  make                                                               
that  determination.    The  prosecution   would  then  ask   the                                                               
judge  to  conclude  that  based  on those  facts  that  was  the                                                               
most serious in the definition of the offense.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked  if  the  prosecution  would  have  to  tell                                                               
the  grand  jury  it wanted  an  indictment  on  assault  in  the                                                               
first  degree and  that it  was among  the most  serious in  this                                                               
category.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI   replied   it  wouldn't   be  required  at   that                                                               
point.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked  at what  point  the trial  jury  gets  this                                                               
decision.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  replied  the  jury would  get  the  evidence  for                                                               
the  underlying   charge.  If  the  prosecution   then  asks  the                                                               
jury  to  make specific   findings,  it  would be  based  on  the                                                               
defendant's conduct and how it affected the victim.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH asked  if the  jury would  fill out  an additional                                                                
verdict   form  and  decide   if  that  conduct   was  the   most                                                               
serious.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  clarified  that  the  jury would  only  make  the                                                               
factual  findings;  the  judge  would  make  the decision   about                                                               
whether or not that conduct was the most serious.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked  what factual  finding   a jury  would  make                                                               
in an assault case.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  replied  it  might be  that  the harm  paralyzed                                                                
the  victim  or  caused  whole  life  injuries   from  which  the                                                               
victim would never recover.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  said it  is  not a  defined  element  in criminal                                                                
law;  it's   an  aspect  of  proving   that  it  was  a  serious                                                                
assault.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI agreed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:04:13 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  PASKVAN   asked  what  the  problem  was  in  the  Henry                                                               
case.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI   replied   the   problem  was   that  the   judge                                                               
unilaterally  eliminated   the rest  of  Mr. Henry's  probation.                                                                
Sometimes   the   prosecution   will  agree   to   a  change   of                                                               
conditions,  but  not  the Henry  case.  He  was a  felony  drunk                                                               
driver and a danger to the public.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PASKVAN  asked what  sentence  would likely  be imposed                                                                
for violating probation by consuming alcohol.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI offered to follow up with the information.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:07:11 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH opined  that  the sentence  would  probably be  two                                                               
months,  but he'd  also have  17 months  suspended  hanging  over                                                               
his head for the next three years.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MCGUIRE  stated  support  for the  provision  and  asked                                                               
if  the committee   could spend  some  time  looking  at success                                                                
rates  for  alcohol   rehabilitation   programs  in  prison   and                                                               
when people are on probation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:10:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS.  CARPENETI  offered  to  find  out  what  treatment  program                                                                
Mr. Henry was following.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  MCGUIRE  expressed  a desire  to  look at  the programs                                                                
available  to  someone   on probation   and  if  someone  can  be                                                               
required to go through alcohol treatment while in prison.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  offered   to find   out all  the  conditions   of                                                               
probation in that case.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:12:00 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL   asked  for  additional   explanation   of  the                                                               
aggravating factor in Section 9.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CARPENETI   explained   that   at  trial   the   state   is                                                               
generally   required  to  prove   every  element  of  the   crime                                                               
charged   beyond   a  reasonable    doubt.   When  there   is   a                                                               
determination    of  guilt,   the   prosecution    could   submit                                                               
additional  evidence  to the  trial jury  during  the sentencing                                                                
phase.  If  the judge  wants  to  sentence  above  the mandatory                                                                
sentencing  range,  aggravating  factors  have to  be proven.  If                                                               
the  judge wants  to  sentence  below the  mandatory  sentencing                                                                
range, the defense needs to prove mitigating factors.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  asked,  under Blakely,  if  it was  the jury's                                                                
discretion  or  the court's  discretion   to present  additional                                                                
evidence before final sentencing.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CARPENETI   explained   that  before   both   Blakely   and                                                               
Apprendi,  a person  would  be found guilty  and  there would  be                                                               
a   sentencing    hearing.    The    prosecution    would    file                                                               
aggravating   factors,   the  defense   would   file  mitigating                                                                
factors,  and  there would  be a  hearing  before the  judge  who                                                               
would  find whether  or not  the factors  were present  by  clear                                                               
and  convincing  evidence.  The  Blakely  decision  stopped  that                                                               
and  now there  are  sentencing  ranges.  To  go above  or  below                                                               
those  ranges,  aggravating  factors  have  to be  proven  beyond                                                               
a reasonable doubt.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL   asked  how  the  jury  is  involved   in  that                                                               
proof.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  replied   the  defendant  has  a  right  for  the                                                               
jury  to determine  factors  unless  the  aggravating  factor  is                                                               
a prior  conviction,  because  the  jury  already  decided  that.                                                               
But  the  jury  can  decide  aggravating   factors  such  as  the                                                               
defendant   was  particularly  cruel  or  he  chose   the  victim                                                               
based on a vulnerable factor.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:16:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  PASKVAN   said  he assumes   that  the  same  jury  that                                                               
found   the   defendant    guilty   would    have   to   make   a                                                               
determination  on  the additional   fact, and  it would  use  the                                                               
standard of beyond a reasonable doubt.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  agreed   and  reiterated  that  the  prosecution                                                                
would  have to give  notice  before trial  that it  was going  to                                                               
seek   an   additional    charge   after   a   guilty   finding.                                                                
Responding   to  further  questions,   she  confirmed   that  the                                                               
aggravator   [under  AS  12.55.155(c)(10)]    caused  particular                                                                
difficulty  and DOL  wanted  to codify  what it  thought was  the                                                               
law in this area.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:19:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   PASKVAN  asked  if  a  second   trial  jury   could  be                                                               
called  to  address   the  question  of  an  aggravator   if  the                                                               
prosecution  had  not  raised  the issue  until  after  a  guilty                                                               
verdict and the initial trial jury was dismissed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI   offered  her  belief   that  if  notice   wasn't                                                               
given   initially,    the   prosecution    probably    lost   the                                                               
opportunity.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PASKVAN   summarized  that  before   the  jury  makes  a                                                               
determination   as  to   guilt  or  innocence   on  the  initial                                                                
charge,  the  prosecution  has  to make  a  determination  as  to                                                               
whether or not to try to prove an aggravator.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI agreed.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   PASKVAN   continued   that  if   the  jury   finds   an                                                               
aggravating  factor,  the judge  can  impose a  sentence subject                                                                
to a presumptive range.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI  confirmed   that  a finding  of  an  aggravating                                                                
factor  allows the  judge to  impose the  maximum  term for  that                                                               
offense.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:21:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH  commented  that the  discussion  reminded  him  of                                                               
his initial  irritation  with  the Blakely  decision,  which  was                                                               
that   it  needlessly   tied  the   hands  of   prosecutors   and                                                               
judges.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CARPENETI   agreed   that   it  was  discouraging   to   the                                                               
prosecution the judge and probably the defense bar as well.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She  said  the  last aggravating   factor  that  is  codified  in                                                               
law  is subsection  (j)  in Section  9 that  appears  on page  4,                                                               
line  31. Once  one aggravating  factor  has been  determined  by                                                               
law,  the judge  may impose  the maximum  term.  The prosecution                                                                
does  not   have  to  go   through  that   procedure  for   other                                                               
aggravating  factors.  She  noted the  sectional  analysis  cites                                                               
Reandeau v. State.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked Mr.  Moody  to provide  his  perspective  of                                                               
SB 186.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:22:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DOUGLAS   MOODY,  Deputy   Director,   Public  Defender   Agency,                                                               
Department of Administration,  Anchorage, AK, stated disagreement                                                               
with  Ms.  Carpeneti's  assessment  of Section  9,  and  said  he                                                               
believes  that it  will leave  the statute  open to  attack under                                                               
federal   constitutional  law.   Blakely  basically   made  these                                                               
aggravating  factors an  element of  the offense  that has  to be                                                               
proven to  a jury. The state  wants the jury to  decide the facts                                                               
and the judge to decide whether  it's the most serious. He opined                                                               
that  juries are  quite capable  of making  these decisions,  and                                                               
highlighted  that   the  U.S.  Supreme  Court   has  been  rather                                                               
consistent  in its  support of  Blakely.  That is  not likely  to                                                               
change anytime soon.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:26:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  PASKVAN  asked if  one or both  subsections  in Section                                                                
9 present a constitutional problem.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MOODY  replied  both present  a problem.  Subsection  (i)  is                                                               
directly   in  conflict   with   Blakely   and   subsection   (j)                                                               
contravenes  the  Sixth Amendment   right to  a trial  by a  jury                                                               
when  a  judge  can  weigh   an  aggravating  factor   without  a                                                               
jury.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:30:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH  referred   to  Section  9,  subsection   (i),  and                                                               
asked  what  the  current  procedure  is  for  proving  the  most                                                               
serious aggravator in an assault trial.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOODY  acknowledged  that  he hadn't  been  a  felony  trial                                                               
lawyer  for a long  time,  and therefore  could  not immediately                                                                
provide an answer.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  expressed   interest  in  knowing  how  the  state                                                               
was doing  it and  held the  question  in abeyance  for the  time                                                               
being.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  asked,  at  some point,  for  a  discussion  of                                                               
the principle of the constitutional issue in Section 9.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PASKVAN  asked,  at some  point,  for clarification   of                                                               
the  meaning  of  the  last sentence   in Section   9 subsection                                                                
(j) on page 5, lines 2-5.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked  Mr. Moody  the  rationale  for  his  belief                                                               
that there were constitutional issues in Section 9.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:33:58 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MOODY  explained  that  the basic  rationale  is the federal                                                                
constitutional   right  to a  jury  trial,  and  that  the  court                                                               
has said  that part  of that  right is  the right  to have  every                                                               
element  of  the  offense   proven  to  the  jury.  If  a  factor                                                               
changes  the  maximum  sentence  that  could  be imposed  by  the                                                               
judge,  then it's  considered  an  element  of the  offense.  The                                                               
right  to a jury  trial means  that element  must  be decided  by                                                               
the jury.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  summarized   that  it's  the right  to  have  a                                                               
jury  discern  the elements  of  a crime  and its  egregiousness                                                                
versus the judge's sentencing discretion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  added  that  it  ensures   that  the jury  stands                                                                
between   the   defendant   and   the   judge's   sentence    and                                                               
considers each aspect.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PASKVAN   summarized  his  understanding   and  Senator                                                                
French agreed with his assessment.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  said the  grief that  many  people felt  with  the                                                               
Blakely   decision   was  that   the  judge   can't  impose   the                                                               
maximum  penalty   for  assault   in  the  first  degree   unless                                                               
aggravators  are  proven  and  the aggravators   now have  to  go                                                               
to a jury.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He asked Mr. Moody to continue his discussion of the bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:36:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MOODY turned  to  Section 6,  and highlighted   that it  was                                                               
not  a new  decision  in State  v.  Henry to  give  trial  judges                                                             
the  discretion  to  terminate  a  defendant's  probation   early                                                               
and  impose some  of  the original  sentence.  That  was decided                                                                
in  the 1997  DeMario  case  that  said  trial  courts  have  the                                                               
duty  to reevaluate   a sentence  on  the  original  conduct  and                                                               
the  conduct  on probation  (including  an  unwillingness  to  do                                                               
probation)  and  impose a  fair  and just  sentence  in light  of                                                               
the  Chaney  criteria.   The  potential  problem   is  that  this                                                               
strips  the  court  of the  discretion  to  review  the sentence                                                                
in entirety.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:44:20 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  FRENCH  said  he too  had  concerns  with the  discretion                                                                
issue,  but this  was  a bargain  that was  struck  knowingly  on                                                               
both  sides, and  it's perhaps  unfair  to deprive  the state  of                                                               
what it felt it bargained for.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PASKVAN  asked where  the duty  to reevaluate  is  found                                                               
because it didn't appear to be before the committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOODY  cited  DeMario   v.  State.  In  1997  the  court  of                                                             
appeals said:                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     It  is  well   settled  that   when  the  trial   court                                                                    
     revokes  probation,  it may  not automatically  impose                                                                     
     all  previously  suspended  time.  Instead,  the  court                                                                    
     must  carefully  reevaluate  all  currently  available                                                                     
     information  in  light  of  the Chaney   criteria.  The                                                                    
     court's  sentence  must  be based  on the  totality  of                                                                    
     the  circumstances,  including  the original  offense,                                                                     
     the   offender,   and   the   offender's   intervening                                                                     
     conduct.   These  sentencing   principles  apply   with                                                                    
     equal  force  to  situations  in  which  the defendant                                                                     
     refuses  probation;   The  defendant's   refusal  of  a                                                                    
     probationary   term   cannot,  in   itself,  be   given                                                                    
     determinative consideration.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOODY  stated  that  this  has  been case  law  for  a  long                                                               
time in this state.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   PASKVAN    asked   if   the   question   is   can   the                                                               
Legislature statutorily change that.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  responded   that  the  judge  is  always  free  to                                                               
consider  the  totality  of the  circumstances  and  impose  some                                                               
of  the suspended   time. But  the  judge  cannot  eliminate  the                                                               
suspended  time  that was imposed  initially  saying  it was  too                                                               
much.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MOODY   confirmed   that  the  provision   says  the   judge                                                               
cannot  do that,  and  then pointed  out  that the  DeMario  case                                                               
was  the background   law under  which  all  Rule  11 agreements                                                                
were  entered  into, including  the  one  that formed  the  basis                                                               
of  the  Henry  decision.  It  says  that  when  a person   comes                                                               
before  the court  on  a revocation,  the  court  can reevaluate                                                                
the sentence in totality.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Referring  to  an earlier  statement  that  the parties  entered                                                                
into  a  bargain,  he  said the  problem  is  that  it's  not  an                                                               
equal  bargaining  position.   The defendant   is bargaining   to                                                               
get  out of  jail  and, in  general,  will  take more  jail  time                                                               
than  the defense  would recommend  or  a court  would impose  if                                                               
it  gets   him  or   her  out  immediately.    It  is  therefore                                                                
appropriate  to  have a  judge  reevaluate  the fairness  of  the                                                               
entire sentence.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  thanked  Mr.  Moody  for  offering  his  views  on                                                               
the bill.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  asked   Senator   Coghill  to   discuss   his  idea  for   an                                                               
amendment conceptually before offering it formally.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:50:29 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   COGHILL   explained   that   the  proposed   amendment                                                                
relates  to  property  crimes  and the  limits  on the  value  of                                                               
the  property   or  service.  The   amendment  seeks  to   adjust                                                               
values  that  were  established  in  the  1970s  to  levels  more                                                               
appropriate  for  the  new  century.  For  example,  someone  who                                                               
is charged  with  a $500 felony  theft  is in court  with  people                                                               
who  have   done  very  serious   personal   damage  to  another                                                                
person.   When  these  values   were  established,   $500   would                                                               
probably   have  been  enough   to  buy  a  fleet  of  bicycles,                                                                
whereas  today  it would  probably  buy just  one.  The question                                                                
is  whether  that level  of  theft should  be  a felony,  and  "I                                                               
don't think so," he said.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  offered  to  follow   up  with  a  written  summary   of  the                                                               
proposal,  but  it  would  basically   increase  property   crime                                                               
limits from $50 to $250 and $500 to $1,500.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  observed  that  this  adjustment   would  touch  a                                                               
lot  of  different  parts   of the  law.  He  asked   when  these                                                               
numbers were adopted and last adjusted.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:53:10 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL  replied  they  have  not  been adjusted   since                                                               
they were adopted in 1978.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH  asked where  the  numbers would  be  if they  were                                                               
inflation adjusted.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  replied  they'd  be considerable   higher  than                                                               
what  he is  suggesting;  the $1,500  figure  would  probably  be                                                               
closer to $2,500.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   FRENCH   asked   if   this  was   aimed   at   just   the                                                               
misdemeanor/felony   cutoff  or if  it also  focuses  on class  B                                                               
felonies and class A felonies.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  COGHILL  responded  that  the  primary  purpose  was  to                                                               
adjust  the misdemeanor/felony   cutoff.  "I don't  want to  look                                                               
soft  on  crime,"   but  the  reality  is  that  some   of  these                                                               
things do not merit what is now a felony charge, he opined.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FRENCH observed  that  there were  good examples  on  page                                                               
4 relating  to issuing  a  bad check  and the fraudulent  use  of                                                               
an access  device.  He asked  what conversations   he'd had  with                                                               
law enforcement, the Department of Law (DOL) and others.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:55:25 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL   said  DOL  might  not  be  an  advocate,   but                                                               
there  wasn't   any  pushback.   There  has  been  some  concern                                                                
regarding  vulnerable  adults  and seniors  who have  been  taken                                                               
advantage  of,  but there  should  be some  way of  dealing  with                                                               
that  other  than making  that  conduct  a felony.  He  said  the                                                               
biggest   problem   relates   to   plea   bargaining   that   was                                                               
discussed   earlier,  and  that   a  felony  hammer   is  a  nice                                                               
bargaining  tool.  Property  crimes is  one area  that the  state                                                               
uses to bargain from a felony to a misdemeanor.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:56:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   FRENCH  related   that   Senator  Coghill   brought   the                                                               
proposal  forward   at  his encouragement   with  the  knowledge                                                                
that  it  would  be controversial.   On  one  hand,  there's  the                                                               
soft  on crime argument;  on  the other  hand, more  money  could                                                               
have  been put  into  the base  student  allocation  (BSA)  today                                                               
if  the state  had  not had  the need  to  build a  $250 million                                                                
prison.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   PASKVAN  expressed   support   for  the  concept,   and                                                               
observed  that  the  ultimate   question  was  at  what  point  a                                                               
person would be a criminal, but not a felon.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   WIELECHOWSKI   asked  to  hear   from  DOL  about   the                                                               
number  of   people  this  would   have  impacted  in   the  last                                                               
couple of years.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. CARPENETI offered to try to get the numbers.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:58:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  FRENCH  said  he'd look  at  what other  states  do  and                                                               
suggested   that   perhaps   the   court   system   could   offer                                                               
anecdotal information about the amounts of the last three                                                                       
convictions for felony theft.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SB 186 was held in committee.                                                                                                   

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